On episode 13, we're talking with Jessica Thurmond & Monica Schmiede at Athelo, which is a startup focusing on empowering cancer patients with their data.

Topics we discuss include letting yourself get out of your box, avoid 'it's always been done this way,' the foreign language of business, pivoting with your end goal in mind, what is Athelo and who's it for, the call for positive change in healthcare, finding what's important to your users (not you), ensuring scalability early, tackling imposter syndrome, believing in yourself, and how to be a storyteller.